Local Journalism Is How Democracy Shows Up Close to Home

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245 points | by mooreds 3 hours ago

28 comments

  • showerst 2 hours ago
    The problem with local journalism is simple: the product is produces is not worth what it costs to produce it.

    This has _always_ been true, but for generations classified ad revenue neatly subsidized it. Once the internet came along and blew up that revenue stream, the industry was in trouble.

    I'm just not sure there's a good solution to this. Everyone will go on the internet and talk about how valuable people sitting in city council meetings is, but not enough people want to pay the monthly bill to enable that.

    • shuntress 0 minutes ago
      I don't know what you think "worth" means but if "the money we make from this product covers the cost of producing the product" then it is worth it.

      That was the case until, as you noted, advertisements became drastically less valuable.

    • SoftTalker 1 hour ago
      Disagree. Where I live there is a local news website that is mostly one guy, who attends city and county meetings, summarizes issues discussed and decisions made, analyzes the data that local government provides under various "transparency" initiatives---all stuff that our local newspaper no longer covers. I pay a monthly subscription (which isn't even required to read) because I believe that local news is the most important news. Nothing happening in the federal governemnt or the middle east or eastern Europe affects me from a local standpoint, and it's easy to stay informed on those events through a variety of sources. But there's very little coverage of the stuff that does affect me: decisions of local government, boards and commissions, stuff that directly affects the taxes I pay and the community I live in.

      You may be right that not enough people want to pay the bill, but I do and so far it seems to be working.

      I stopped subscribing to our local traditional newspaper because it's nothing but lightweight feature stories, local sports, and reprints of news from USA Today.

      • CodingJeebus 5 minutes ago
        I think this is great, and I'm glad to hear that there are people out there doing this kind of work.

        The main thing you need to watch out for in this kind of situation is corruption of the news filtering process on the local level. It's much easier to successfully bribe/coerce/undermine a single individual running an independent newsletter like this than it is an entire newsroom. Editors are helpful for vetting sources, providing guidance on how to follow up on leads, etc.

      • potato3732842 7 minutes ago
        The problem with "one guy" is the potentially high standard deviation. The one guy can potentially be a careerist good old boy club protecting special interest facilitating jerk in the same way that any of the dozens of the barely accountable bureaucrats in your town can be.
        • joenot443 2 minutes ago
          I'd still prefer that "one guy" if the alternative is nothing. My Ontario town has a similar character. Lord knows he has his biases, but frequently the alternative to a loud curmudgeon is just no accountability at all.
      • EvanAnderson 1 hour ago
        I think what you have there is cool, but I question if it would be sustainable.

        In a market where "mostly one guy" can cover the beat that might work for awhile, with all the caveats that come from depending on an individual, versus an organization, to do a job.

        In a larger market, where multiple people would be needed to cover the workload, I'm not so sure the funding model would work. I can imagine the subscription fees not keeping up with the step function of adding people to the organization. (You need that 3rd reporter to drive subscription revenue by expanding coverage, but current subscription revenue doesn't support it, so you can't add them.)

      • venndeezl 26 minutes ago
        I believe it's important for you to show up at the meetings too, not outsource political action like you do sewing of your clothes.

        Consistent displays of comity would go a long way to kowtowing the politisphere.

      • showerst 1 hour ago
        I think that's great!

        Maybe that's the answer, hope your town gets one or two good journalists who can live off the pool of people who do care. Then you just hope that they don't get hit by a bus, sell out without you knowing, etc.

        I do wish there was a more systematic market for it though, it's crazy how much value a few reporters can provide just by providing the check on power of asking basic questions to those in power.

        • pixl97 41 minutes ago
          >Then you just hope that they don't get hit by a bus, sell out without you knowing, piss off the wrong person, etc.

          Reporting does have some dangers.

      • psunavy03 51 minutes ago
        I do agree that local policies are important, but I'm wary of "Nothing happening in the federal governemnt or the middle east or eastern Europe affects me from a local standpoint."

        If there's a theme to US politics these days, it's one party or the other trying to get power so they can ram home the same policies across the nation, and the hell with state or local governments that want otherwise.

        Since the advent of social media, there's a huge blurring of the lines between national and local issues. The fact that, say, someone got shot 2,000 miles away should be a tragedy, but have no bearing on my own life. But now one party or the other will use it as a cudgel to push policies in my own state and locality.

        • bluGill 40 minutes ago
          If something happens in the US or the middle east I'll find out about it - because so many other people need to know the same it isn't hard to find enough people to pay for it.

          However if something happens in my city - odds are nobody else reading this lives in the same city and so you don't care. There are only about 30,000 people in the world who care about my cities' parks, the rest of you will never care (maybe one of the thousands of you will happen to stop at a park for one hour of your life - but if we have terrible parks you will just head to the next town). However I live here, the parks in my city matter to me, and so I need someone to tell me about them. Remember I just used parks as an example, the school board and library board happen to meet on the same night so it isn't even possible for me to attend both and that is before we account for my kid's having gymnastics at the same night making getting to one tricky.

        • potato3732842 13 minutes ago
          Basically everything the feds do winds up getting implemented state or locally in a backhanded national drinking age sort of way.

          When you get into the minutia of policy changes and "yeah we'll just enforce what the feds say and let the official rules be wrong until someone sues" type behavior that comes about as a result it'll have you shopping for bulldozers on FBMP.

      • milofeynman 1 hour ago
        We have this also. https://coppellchronicle.substack.com/

        Article about it: https://simonowens.substack.com/p/this-local-newsletter-cove...

        40%+ conversion rate on substack.

      • like_any_other 41 minutes ago
        > Nothing happening in the federal governemnt or the middle east or eastern Europe affects me from a local standpoint

        The federal government decides the limits within which your local government must operate. A good chunk of your taxes go to wars in the middle east, and a good deal of the politicians in that federal government self-professedly care more about a middle-eastern country than the one they were elected to represent [1].

        To rephrase a saying - you may not care about federal politics, but federal politics cares about you.

        [1] "if this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel." - Nancy Pelosi, Israel-American Council Conference, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I

    • nerdponx 3 minutes ago
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    • beloch 3 minutes ago
      I live in a city of one and half million. There are two "local" newspapers with histories that, in one case, reaches back over a century. One used to have offices across the street from city hall and regularly broke stories when somebody stumbled out of city hall and into their offices to report dirty deeds. The other paper was of an opposing political slant and the two papers used to fight like cats and dogs. People would read both papers to get a handle on local political winds.

      Today, both papers are owned by the same Toronto-based, American-owned media conglomerate. Both papers have lost their local offices. Some work-from-home types produce localized content. Just enough to make the papers look somewhat local. Much of the local content is lazily scraped from reddit, showing up in the city's subreddit one day and appearing in the papers the next. However, 99% of the content is the same as the "local" paper in Toronto runs. The former disagreements over politics are over, and both papers run the same ranting opinion columns.

      And yet... You can still walk into any convenience store in town and buy a paper copy of these two "local" papers. My parents still have both papers delivered, and haven't seemed to clue into the fact that they're both the same, American owned paper.

      It's not just a loss of ad revenue that have killed local news. It's media conglomerates who are hoodwinking people into thinking they still have local news coverage when they really don't.

    • markstos 4 minutes ago
      Digital production has lowered the cost, and the Ghost platform in particular is a great value for small publishers, bundling together the blog, newsletter and subscriptions in one package, even now including ActivityPub federation.

      And Ghost themselves a non-profit org that doesn't mark up the Stripe transaction fees!

      One local news outlet recently switched to that, saving about %5 on Patreon fees and a second is switching now.

      https://ghost.org/

    • boelboel 36 minutes ago
      The problem as with many things is that people just don't care and they just want things as cheap as possible. Even if people had a great local journal, there's no real reason to pay well for it when you can just figure things out a day later on facebook. Quality can go down without most people noticing because lots of people couldn't tell apart good reporting from bad , a good portion would have to put in effort to do so and an even smaller portion would immediately notice. Less incentive to go into local journalism if you're bright as well, dying field with little chance to go 'up'.
    • snarf21 1 hour ago
      You are 100% right. However, I personally think it is worse than that. Let's just say that local papers found some new feature (no idea what) that could fund local journalism. Do we think the money would be spent to create great journalism or would the money just be taken as profit by posting social media snippets as "news"? I fear that in this post truth world that we don't even have enough people that value the creation of journalism. Most just want to score internet points and get online ad revenue from talking nonsense on their daily podcast. And we've seen that sowing dissent is far far more profitable than creating journalism.

      I work adjacent to an online publication business and freelancers are getting ~$750 for a 1500 word article. I don't know how you get actual journalism at that price. Increasingly we're just going to get people dropping concepts into GPT and editing whatever comes back for 30 minutes. I fear that the only way out would be a single one of the dozens of billionaires to step up and donate a self-sustaining grant towards long term journalism excellence. Unfortunately, the last 10 years have shown that they don't care about the world and just want to make their number go up at any cost necessary.

      • exceptione 1 hour ago
        We can shake our head at how wild superstition could be in ancient times.

        "Everything needs to be a business model." Maybe the future generations will be more advanced.

        • bee_rider 34 minutes ago
          When a business doesn’t have a business model, I worry it might be an investor-funded startup or something like that.
      • throwawaysleep 1 hour ago
        Eh, even when journalism exists, it is generally just ignored by the public.
        • macintux 47 minutes ago
          Sure, it's generally ignored, but when something important emerges, having the historical record is incredibly useful.
    • afavour 2 hours ago
      It’s not flawless but public funding for journalism is about the only answer here, I think. In the UK the BBC offers newscasts for different regions of the country… while they don’t exactly do a ton of hard hitting journalism they could if the money was spent more wisely.
      • coredog64 38 minutes ago
        Have you ever listened to NPR and not been subject to Gell-Mann amnesia?
        • palmotea 27 minutes ago
          > Have you ever listened to NPR and not been subject to Gell-Mann amnesia?

          Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

          Personally, I support public funding of journalism, but there needs to be a lot more of it. Enough to support competing outlets in most markets.

    • glaslong 38 minutes ago
      Another reason I'm pissed my taxes aren't going to PBS/CPB anymore, and am praying they can still fund some local stations with new direct donation. Lots of communities depend on it.
      • Esophagus4 3 minutes ago
        You can still donate to PBS, and even to your specific local station.
    • DarkNova6 45 minutes ago
      What I am reading here is "Democracy doesn't come free of charge"
    • __MatrixMan__ 1 hour ago
      People's satisfaction with the internet is on the decline lately, for a variety of reasons. Maybe it'll cross a threshold where opting into a local-only net would be worth doing for enough people.
    • joebe89 1 hour ago
      Not sure I agree about this, in the UK we have some excellent examples of independent local journalism, for example the Bristol Cable that is funded by readers.
    • palmotea 31 minutes ago
      > The problem with local journalism is simple: the product is produces is not worth what it costs to produce it.

      That's not true: you're forgetting positive externalities. The product is worth the cost, but the straightforward capitalist revenue streams aren't enough to cover those costs.

      So if you rely on capitalism in 2026, that value get destroyed and the community is worse off for it.

    • altilunium 1 hour ago
      > "I'm just not sure there's a good solution to this."

      The democratization of local journalism, where anyone can become a reporter: reporting events in the field, interviewing key people, and publishing opinions. With the internet, anyone could set up their own news outlet.

      This idea is quite well-tested in my local area, where audiences directly send donation money to individual reporters who run their own sole-proprietorship news outlets.

    • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
      For-profit businesses tend to get bloated and eventually succumb to their own growth, one way or another.

      Alternative: Start a newspaper who's goal is to be lean in operations, basically one person per role, and fund raise it from individuals, groups and government subsidies (if those exist in your country).

      Seemingly people are able to fund things like Indie Games via Patreon subscriptions, surely for towns/cities with at least 100,000 people there would be a 1% of the residents interested in local news, right? 1000 people donating 15 EUR a month is already 15,000 EUR, assuming it only gets funded by monthly donations of individuals.

      • glaslong 34 minutes ago
        The only reliable funding sources then seem to be local car dealerships and lawyers who want puff pieces / ads about themselves. I think we need to acknowledge that communities producing news about their region is a public good and thus should be funded with taxes.
      • bee_rider 45 minutes ago
        How many people would 15,000 EUR employ in your area? That’s significantly below a living wage for one person in the US…

        Maybe an incredibly lean organization could make it with 150,000 EUR? All digital, 3-4 really devoted employees.

        • embedding-shape 32 minutes ago
          > How many people would 15,000 EUR employ in your area?

          3-4 people easily, probably closer to 5-6 in reality. Minimum salary in my country is around 1200 EUR/month, but we also have free health care for everyone and other anti-democratic things.

          • bee_rider 16 minutes ago
            Ah, I had a brain-fart, was thinking yearly instead of monthly. Sorry!
      • zeagle 1 hour ago
        That sounds a lot like a newspaper subscription. I subscribe to my local (physical) paper once a week for this reason.
        • nerdponx 1 hour ago
          Modern-day patronage is kind of different from a subscription. It's a lot like a "pay what you want" subscription model, but people seem a lot more generous when you express it as a "donation with early access to premium articles" rather than payment for goods and services.
          • zeagle 8 minutes ago
            That's really fair. I think of my donations and support and usually higher than I would want to subscribe for!
        • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
          Yeah, as long as you remove the "for-profit" part, it's essentially that. Once it's a for-profit business, it perverses the incentives, and it'll be a race to the bottom or a race to see what subscribers can survive the highest prices, which is exactly what we wanna avoid :)
          • ecshafer 1 hour ago
            Non-profits don't really stop any of that. Plenty of non-profits are after perverse incentives to gather as much money as they can to just pay higher ups more money, and use the non-profit status to pay employees less.
            • embedding-shape 43 minutes ago
              > Plenty of non-profits are after perverse incentives to gather as much money as they can to just pay higher ups more money

              Where is this specifically, in the US? Usually the laws of the country prevent this, since they're you know... Non-profits... But wouldn't surprise me there are a few leftover countries who refuse to join the modern world.

              • ecshafer 38 minutes ago
                The US has this problem. There aren't really rules on paying executives as much as you want, or having bonus structures based on fundraising, as long as the board okays it and considers it as contributing to the mission. It is non-profit because it doesn't pay out profits to investors. This is a large way corruption happens in the US, ie a lot of those "X politician foundations" pay modest amounts of money to some cause, but a large percentage of the donations go to the executive as a salary for running the corp, the executive is the politician. Its a big shell game.
                • embedding-shape 15 minutes ago
                  Yeah, seemingly a local problem rather than a problem with non-profits, unfortunately :/ Hope things get better over there over time!
            • TimTheTinker 1 hour ago
              Maybe there's a third way. What about a company owned by a "perpetual purpose trust" - i.e. a trust with a defined purpose that is legally binding. It's the only shareholder, so no extracting value and all profits have to comply with the trust's bylaws in how they are used. Patagonia (US company) is one example of this; it's profits are legally bound to go toward environmental causes.

              Bosch and Zeiss in Germany are comparable - they are Verantwortungseigentum (Steward-Ownership).

          • philipallstar 1 hour ago
            You just find the optimal point for the most people if it's for profit.
            • nerdponx 12 minutes ago
              I think that only holds if company ownership is not close with company leadership. Is a "subscriber owned" newspaper model possible? Like how co-op stores are at least nominally owned by their customers.

              I could also imagine a system in which a local newspaper was actually run as a public utility by an independent corporation, but explicitly chartered and subsidized by a town/city/county.

            • embedding-shape 59 minutes ago
              I doubt that's true in practice, although I know many capitalists know that to be true in theory.
      • komali2 1 hour ago
        I wonder if a newspaper co-op is a viable idea?

        I do feel like there's a turn happening in the economy, or at least, some new scene growing. Or maybe I'm just finally becoming aware of it. That being, rejection of monopolized products.

        I've never seen so much activity around Linux, for example. Or, I follow a content creator called SkillUp who just launched a videogames news site with revenue purely from subscriptions, and apparently they got way more subs than they expected. And as has been mentioned, lots of indie games have been getting funding lately, and a relatively small studio just crushed the game awards circuit.

      • DonnyV 1 hour ago
        Its almost like we should just publicly fund it from the tax people already pay.
        • Xelbair 1 hour ago
          It fact you absolutely shouldn't as this put them in huge conflict of interest.

          how will you investigate corruption if your funding can be cut?

          • embedding-shape 41 minutes ago
            >? how will you investigate corruption if your funding can be cut?

            Don't make it possible for the current administration to cut the funding of the public media? Plenty of examples out there in the world where those currently in power can't just cut funding to major institutions, I think that's the norm rather than the exception in fact.

            • Xelbair 20 minutes ago
              >Don't make it possible for the current administration to cut the funding of the public media?

              Surely laws are immutable system and cannot be changed ever. It is always perfectly designed without loopholes, and especially so when ones who design the system could benefit from them.

              • embedding-shape 13 minutes ago
                Absolutely not, no one claimed so either, and frankly, why continue discussing with you when you don't seem to be curious about a honest and straightforward conversation? Screw that noise.

                Normally, in democratic countries, you have a process for changing laws. Enshrine your public media in those, or even better, in the constitution, and you've pretty much protected it short-term at least. Add in foundations or whatever concepts your country have, to add more layers of indirection, and it's even more protected.

                • Xelbair 4 minutes ago
                  You can really see how well such system works by observing USA right now.

                  Only way you could have any form of public financing of such endeavor without conflict of interest is to have multinational organization funded by every country.

                  Or you end up with BBC.

          • bjourne 53 minutes ago
            The same argument applies to ad-sponsored media too. In fact, have you noticed that it was a very long time since a major paper did an exposé of the very sleazy online casino business? I wonder why.
        • reliabilityguy 1 hour ago
          What issue from the listed above public funding would address? Public funding doesn’t prevent the entity to become bloated.
        • __MatrixMan__ 1 hour ago
          I bet we could come up with a list of things we don't like about adtech, tax those behaviors, and give the proceeds to their local competitors.
        • embedding-shape 1 hour ago
          That's a radical idea! Unfortunately, it gives a lot of ammo to the "anti-socialist" people who are vehemently against anything "public" funded by tax payers. Look at what's happening in the Nordics for example, where pretty much everyone supported public radio/TV at least when I was growing up, but nowadays a bunch of political parties are trying to have it removed/reduced.
          • carlosjobim 1 hour ago
            Nordic public broadcasting is some of the lowest quality news media you can find. They're not a good example, unless the job of public service media is to only support one or two political parties at all cost (you know which ones).

            Edit: Just an example. The funniest thing they've been doing regularly for decades now is when they go out on the streets with a camera to ask random strangers - the common man - about what they think about some recent development, like "What do you think about Trump?".

            But the "random stranger" common man on the street is actually a politician from the journalist's own party who has dressed up and showed up on a pre-agreed place and time.

            • embedding-shape 57 minutes ago
              > Nordic public broadcasting is some of the lowest quality news media you can find.

              Compared to what? Have you seen what qualifies as "news" in other parts of the world?

              > media is to only support one or two political parties at all cost

              I've seen news on Swedish public media that disparages all sides of the political spectrum, exactly what I expect from public media not taking sides.

              > But the "random stranger" common man on the street is actually a politician from the journalist's own party who has dressed up and showed up on a pre-agreed place and time.

              Cherry-picking in journalism has absolutely nothing to do with public media or not, and I'm not sure why you're bringing it up here.

              • carlosjobim 42 minutes ago
                > Compared to what? Have you seen what qualifies as "news" in other parts of the world?

                Even compared to non-government funded media in their own countries, just to start with. Or public broadcasters in other countries, such as the BBC or PBS.

                As for Swedish public media not taking sides, that is like saying Fox News doesn't take sides and isn't aligned with the Republican party. If you can convince yourself to believe that Swedish public media isn't politically aligned, then congratulations.

                > Cherry-picking in journalism has absolutely nothing to do with public media or not, and I'm not sure why you're bringing it up here.

                How do you not understand? When interviewing the "common man" out on the streets, you should do that, and not interview somebody who is a high level party functionary without telling people you are doing that.

                That's like Fox News interviewing "random strangers" on the streets, but it turns out to be JD Vance in a wig.

                • embedding-shape 11 minutes ago
                  > As for Swedish public media not taking sides

                  That's not what I said, I said that I've seen Swedish public media "disparages all sides of the political spectrum", which is way more realistic than "not taking sides". We all wish we can be perfectly impartial, but that's short of impossible, so the next best thing is that it pushes no matter where it comes from. That's what I've seen, but I no longer live in Sweden, maybe this last decade it's been different than how it was when I lived up there.

            • bjourne 50 minutes ago
              Keep lying.
              • carlosjobim 38 minutes ago
                Sorry for blaspheming against your god.
    • 0xbadcafebee 33 minutes ago
      Our local paper put up a paywall so subscriptions help subsidize the reporting along with the advertising. I'm sure it's a losing battle but you don't get into local news for the money.
    • exceptione 1 hour ago

        > the product is produces is not worth what it costs to produce it.
      
      Media are the fourth estate. As such they are indispensable in a democratic state based on the rule of law.

      How to kill it:

      1. abolish the fairness doctrine. Selling fakes and lies = big profit. => fox news e.a.

      2. Let moneyed interests run the show. Control the narratives => poor people voting for the billionaire interests at their own detriment

        > I'm just not sure there's a good solution to this. 
      
      I am not sure if it is still possible to mention public broadcasting because of dominant narratives ("public service bad, billionaire company good")¹, but left alone they will do a very good job usually.

      1) As an exercise, who sponsors this narrative?

      • snarf21 1 hour ago
        I fear that in the last decade, even the PBSs of the world have pulled back. They still create content but they have been very loathe to come out against any interest that the billionaire philanthropists might object to.
        • exceptione 1 hour ago
          I don't know too much about PBS specifically, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are not immune to Elite Capture¹

          1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_capture

          • pksebben 56 minutes ago
            woof, that article. The examples section doesn't contain a single concrete example and after reading the whole thing I can't tell whether they're talking about academics publishing news articles or congress' revolving door. Wikipedia has been struggling lately. Maybe that's what they're talking about.
    • oooyay 52 minutes ago
      Not really true. I live in Portland, local journalism is very alive here.
      • starkparker 27 minutes ago
        Maine? Because in Portland, OR:

        - the Oregonian's newsroom is in all but open conflict with its editorial board, its credibility for breaking hard news was already in the shitter before it sold to ADVANCE, and for several years it stopped publishing a broadsheet edition and shuttered its print facility to cut costs

        - the Merc sold out to a Seattle-based group run by a former Washington state legislator in July 2024 that's been buying out alt-weeklies in Seattle and Chicago

        - Pamplin/Trib and EO groups got bought out by Carpenter, a Mississippi-based conglomerate, in June 2024 with a rep for cutting everything but sports coverage. Layoffs hit both in July 2025

        Only the WWeek is still locally owned, and it started a non-profit and seeking donations in 2024. Maybe 20 full-time employees there, at best, and as of 2024 barely above water financially.

    • suddenlybananas 1 hour ago
      this is what taxes are for
      • carlosjobim 1 hour ago
        If you are fine with your taxes also funding the news channels you hate the most, then sure.
    • monkaiju 24 minutes ago
      I mean I'd be more than willing to pay/donate/support a local paper if we had any that weren't just tailing the narratives of power. Our local "paper of record" (Salt Lake Tribune) is basically a platform for the powerful to launder their actions as well as a police stenography platform.

      I do subscribe to some larger papers, specifically the Guardian, and they're far from perfect. I would happily support a local paper with even those same compromises.

    • EGreg 1 hour ago
      I never understood why the journalism industry didn't go the way of wikipedia.

      Britannica was the shining example of capitalism, being sold door to door. Encarta was done by Microsoft. Both got disrupted real quick by a million people making little edits to an open encyclopedia. An open-source gift economy with many contributors seems to beat capitalistic systems. Linux. Wordpress. MySQL. In general, science / wikipedia / open source projects also feature peer review before publishing, a desirable trait.

      Everyone has a cellphone. It's not like we need professional cameras to capture things. What we really need is a place to post clips and discuss them in a way that features peer review. It would be better and strictly healthier than the current for-profit large corporations like Meta or X. That's one of the projects I'm building using our technology. Anyone interested, email me (email in my profile)

      Compare:

      1. https://www.laweekly.com/restoring-healthy-communities/

      2. https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-is-earning-fortu...

      • GrinningFool 1 hour ago
        I think you're right to a point, but that "a place to post clips and discuss them" isn't enough. The world is filled with clips that are essentially meaningless or taken out of context to say something different. In addition to aggregation and discussion, research and investigation is required in order to get the story behind the clip.
      • alephnerd 1 hour ago
        Because people have bills to pay.

        The most dedicated Wikipedians in specific domains often tend to be academics in that space and whose day jobs tend to be adjacent to the niche they edit.

        It's difficult to find the equivalent for local government, because the most knowledgable are already active, in the loop, and in the same circles so social ostracism is a real risk that they might be viewed as airing dirty laundry.

        The number of people in a Chamber of Commerce, PTA, City Council, School Board, Rotary Club, local Library Foundation, Church Board, Teachers Union leadership, City Workers Union leadership, Police Union leadership, and a couple family offices may number in the 50-100 range, so no one is anonymous.

        And finally, most local news groups are now owned by the 3rd generation of that family, and most of them have either already or are in the process of getting out of the local news business.

        The reality is, if you want to make an impact in your local community (especially politically) you will have to build local relationships and become extremely active in existing cliques - playing golf at the private golf club, attending church or temple, becoming a member of the rotary club, contributing to library foundation fundraisers, become a junior member of the Chamber of Commerce, etc.

        Finally, your pitch is the exact same one NextDoor back when they were a much smaller startup. Look at how that turned out. Making a Wikipedia type organization in 2026 would be nigh impossible given how decentralized the Internet has become, and how it isn't a niche platform anymore.

  • spmartin823 32 minutes ago
    The death of local journalism is fundamentally a revenue problem. My cofounder and I have been working for the last year to find new revenue streams for newspapers at https://seward.presspass.ai/.

    Our current hypothesis is that local rewards programs could be a sustainable revenue stream and give the newspaper a way to prove their advertising works with locals.

    While trying this out, we've also helped a few papers get up and running - we're calling it "newspaper in a box". Check out a few of the papers we've helped launch: https://sewardfolly.com/ (9 months old) https://homerindependentpress.com/ (2 weeks old).

    • j45 21 minutes ago
      There are crowd and community funded models doing hyperlocal journalism sustainably.
    • venndeezl 27 minutes ago
      I really don't understand this pathetic grovel and prostrate at the feet of the rich, thing.

      Why are the masses, the majority, obliged to kiss ass and suck up to what, a half million politicians, a million cops, and 1%ers?

      Why do you see others as court jesters that must dance for modern equivalent of barons and baronesses?

      What an antiquated and childish cult behavior.

  • squeedles 2 hours ago
    This article should be at the core of any discussion about media concentration. The vast consolidation of radio stations is well known, but the same thing has been happening to small local newspapers. In both cases, you end up with a voice speaking to the public from afar, not local people talking to your community about issues that are important to your neighbors.

    At that point, most people just go to the gossip corner of social media and spend the rest of their day being fed six hours of outrage.

    • axus 5 minutes ago
      Social media groups should have a role to play in local journalism, or at least debate of local issues. Would love to see the passion and information sharing of a gaming Discord server, but focused on my county.

      Haven't used Nextdoor, maybe its similar?

  • Popeyes 2 hours ago
    Rightmove, the property sales website, absolutely destroyed local journalism in the UK. It was written on the wall, but local newspapers had all the local listings for property and other services. A local newspaper was 60%+ of house sales, but that advertising revenue paid for local journalists to sit and read council papers and attend meetings and get people out in the community. Nowadays, local journalism, even from national broadcasters like the BBC is a shadow of its former glory.
    • 1a527dd5 2 hours ago
      Yeah I remember going through those pages as a kid; my local "chronicle" had loads in.

      I love Rightmove as a shopper, but it's 2nd-4th order effects have been disastrous.

      There have been attempts to unseat Rightmove (e.g. boomin) but it's such a behemoth in it's industry that is tantamount to wanting to unseat Google.

    • pbronez 1 hour ago
      It’s interesting that property ads, and classifieds more broadly, benefit from a centralized platform but journalism itself does not. It’s an uneven impact of the technology shift from printing presses to digital. Why didn’t the drop in publishing costs make local journalism MORE accessible?

      Perhaps it did in minor ways. Facebook Groups, NextDoor, CraigsList, etc make it easy for anyone to share information with their neighbors. Turns out most people just want to sell something or complain about nothing. These activities benefit the author but nobody else.

      Local journalism has benefitted a little bit from this dynamic. Regional news organizations put together decent digital platforms and run articles. But they don’t seem to pay as well… again because the revenue spread out.

      Honestly, I’d love to treat local journalism as a public good. Could you fund a credible local newspaper through taxes? It’d be WAY cheaper than a school or police station.

      The problem is: how can you trust part of the government to keep an eye on the rest of the government?

      Perhaps you could impose a mandatory journalism fee based on the municipal budget. Whatever you spend, a sliver goes to the journalists for oversight.

      Local governments spend about $2700 per person. Population of 10,000 means a budget of $27M. Give 1% of that to a journalist and you have $270k… enough for a salary, website and some equipment.

      You could require that money be paid to a non-profit as a grant. Probably better to elect an Editor in Chief though… that way you can appeal directly to the citizens for validation of the oversight. If you just pay a non-profit, they’ll be incentivized to serve whoever writes the grant… which would be the people you’re trying to hold accountable.

      • mywittyname 1 hour ago
        What you're describing is a lot like NPR. Which was great, until the people in power decided to pull that funding.

        The problem with the government is it doesn't like oversight. So in this situation, you need to devise a scheme where the government is forced to pay something, but also has no control over that money. Which is a hard problem.

        • coredog64 15 minutes ago
          I don't know that I would describe NPR as "great". One specific example that sticks in my mind was a story they did about firearms. The host kept using the word "automatic". Knowing something about firearms, it was apparent to me that it was being used as shorthand for "not a revolver", but the host was implying that it meant "machine gun". Revolvers are so uncommon that there's really not any useful value being passed in attaching the word "automatic" when describing a gun unless you're describing something that is subject to the NFA.

          Or, more recently, there was a deep dive into the Chicago parking meter deal. I don't think anyone needs convincing that it was a bad deal, but one thing that they said was that the new owners have "already received back all the money they paid out". Okay, but please expand. This was for an economics show, so is the recovery just a gross dollar comparison (e.g. they've received back more than $1.1B), is it inflation adjusted, does it exceed the time value of the money that was given to the Daley administration? It wouldn't have taken but another 30 seconds to make it clear, but by not saying I'm 99% certain they were focusing on gross dollar comparison and ignoring the value of 2008 dollars vs. 2025 dollars. In turn, that sounds like it's playing towards the audience members that don't understand why the total of payments for their mortgage is so much more than the purchase price of the house.

  • Zaskoda 46 minutes ago
    I once interviewed for a tech job at the Seattle times. I didn't land the job, but the interview was enlightening. I was told that the investigative reporters at the newspaper did all of the "work" of uncovering news. Subsequently, the TV broadcast station would just report on what the newspaper found. Meanwhile, the broadcast news was raking in tons more ad revenue than the newspaper.

    Ever since then, I've often brainstormed of ways to remove all of the layers between the actual investigative reporter and the general public looking for a way to get as much of the revenue directly from the public into the hands of those doing to investigations and reports.

    I've had ideas though nothing revolutionary enough to share here. Still, I think the overall goal would be good for literally everyone.

    • veep_in_general 42 minutes ago
      Yeah thats interesting. I wonder what a solution would look like for this. Would legislating a 'finders fee' be the right approach for whoever news source was breaking the topic?
  • markstos 7 minutes ago
    They had a solid podcast interview with journalist Jordan Green on the raise of far-right extremism in the US.

    https://buckscountybeacon.com/2025/08/journalist-jordan-gree...

  • 999900000999 1 hour ago
    So the big issue with the entire business model of journalism is it's just too easy to buy influence.

    Jeff Bezos has already reaped many multiples of his investment in the Washington Post.

    For more or less a nominal amount of money to him He's able to shape much of our public discourse.

    I suspect a volunteer non profit news organization could emerge. But even then, how many skilled journalists are going to be able to work a "real" job too.

    • slfnflctd 1 hour ago
      > volunteer non profit news organization [...] skilled journalists

      This could maybe be done with retirees or those who are mostly financially independent, as well as those who want to help run the nonprofit.

      The problem is that in the current climate, it is harder both to retire and to become financially independent.

      If you want the labor of skilled journalists beyond a trickle of content from the ivory tower type, you either need to set up an intentional community or simply pay people enough to live on. I don't see any clear shortcuts. Quality output requires sufficient energy inputs.

    • Aunche 15 minutes ago
      > Jeff Bezos has already reaped many multiples of his investment in the Washington Post.

      Has he though? The Washington Post has actually been a leader in primary reporting in Amazon's union busting activities [1]. He may have pressure them to not endorse Kamala Harris, but he likely would have better standing with Trump had he had never bought the Post in the first place.

      For all the shit that mainstream media gets, much of which is deserved, alternative media is order of magnitudes worse with regards to manipulating public discourse.

      [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/09/amazon-...

  • pastor_williams 2 hours ago
    This is why I subscribe to my local city and regional newspapers. Similar to emailing my representatives about political issues that are of interest to me. It isn't much and I'm just a drop in the ocean but at least it is more than complaining into a void or just reading other's complaints online and getting depressed.

    For more local issues I can really feel like I am making a difference. We have sidewalks all the way to my kids' school and a crosswalk now a year after I made it my cause and messaged city planners and councilmen.

  • maztaim 2 hours ago
    Block Communications just closed two papers in Pittsburgh this year. The Post Gazette has been around since 1786. There are fewer and fewer[1] options available and I suspect this is a disturbing trend across many locations.

    [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Newspapers_published_...

  • tptacek 41 minutes ago
    In my local, extremely progressive community, Facebook Groups are about 20x more important to democracy than local journalism, which residents genuflect to but provides less value than a replacement-level blog. I love journalism and stick up for it here all the time, but this platitude about local journalism has never rung true to me.
    • phil21 29 minutes ago
      I’m guessing I know the local newspaper/newsletter you speak about being in Chicago. I was a very early supporter of them when they started up, but canceled a couple years back when it was clear they care far less about reporting and more about pushing personal beliefs and vendettas. To the point of outright destroying local businesses over petty ideological driven things.

      I still think they do good work here and there, but their editorial standard is such that when faced with evidence of a reporter ignoring facts their response was to double down much less post a retraction. A conversation with one reporter I had basically summarized to “we will report what we want to how we want to, it’s our organization and we don’t get paid enough to be objective”. Fair enough, I suppose.

      At that point random people with a blog is better since at least there is not an aura of neutral fact-based journalism behind it.

      Unfortunately I refuse to participate in the Facebook ecosystem so I can’t comment on if Facebook Groups is a suitable replacement for knowing the general happenings in my neighborhood and city. I’ve made an attempt to get more involved with local meetings and events the alderman holds, etc. but it seems far too little to keep up on anything in a major way.

      • tptacek 22 minutes ago
        Our local newspaper is the Wednesday Journal. I don't know that I'd call it petty so much as a status-quo amplifier staffed with people who aren't really engaged with what's going on here.

        I understand people's distaste with Meta, but at least where I live, if you're avoiding Meta, you're avoiding basically all the important civic discourse. I poasted my way to getting a law passed... on Facebook Groups.

    • palmotea 22 minutes ago
      Facebook Groups are garbage, but everything is in such a degraded state that they might look OK in 2026.

      What's really needed is journalism done by professionals who are paid like professionals. That's a 100x better than any Facebook Group.

      • tptacek 18 minutes ago
        Oh, Groups sucks ass. I dream of figuring out a way to move the discourse even just to Reddit. But people talking to each other and keeping each other up to date on what's happening, with electeds and staff participating, and with decent moderation is going to trounce anything professional journalists can accomplish in this setting.

        That's not true of regional and national journalism. We need someone doing that work in Springfield, the state capital. We'd all be better off if we pooled the money that was going to suburban local newspapers and sent it there.

    • godzillabrennus 36 minutes ago
      Meanwhile, Zuckerberg continues to embrace the current administration.
      • tptacek 21 minutes ago
        We're plausibly one of the 10 most progressive munis in the country (we are the most progressive in Chicagoland, which should put us easily in the running nationwide), and this argument has zero (0) suction here, which means it presumably has zero suction anywhere.
  • cobber2005 32 minutes ago
    In addition to local journalism, cooperatives are another way democracy can show up close to home. Combining the two, I believe 404Media.co is effectively a journalist-owned outlet (i.e. a worker coop).
  • tyjen 1 hour ago
    It's rare to find local newspapers owned locally, and even rarer to find a local newspaper that's a fair representation of the local population instead of an insulated clique with heavy handed control over what's represented.

    Local online forums dedicated to a locality produce more representative content and everyone can participate as long as their isn't a similar controlling clique in charge of moderation. See /r/Seattle and /r/SeattleWA for how moderation manipulates outcomes. Both perspectives are important, but each clique tends to omit what others deem important; leading to topic over-representation/under-representation problems.

    There's clearly a loss on long forum informational pieces, but your community is misinformed or misrepresented if those pieces only support the motives of the clique.

    • quasse 43 minutes ago
      Seattle actually happens to have some absolutely great examples of local journalism as well as some extremely bad examples of corporate owned "news" factories.

      https://westseattleblog.com/ is run by a single person (formerly a husband and wife team) and she attends huge numbers of local events and city meetings providing hyper-local coverage on things that are happening in the area.

  • retrocog 2 hours ago
    This is a topic close to my heart and I've been working with a small team on a solution for a few years and its finally launching into beta now. Hope it works out. If not, back to the drawing board!
  • ecshafer 1 hour ago
    Local journalism is important but I am not really sure how to fix it. Lets say we make a big fund to pay for "independent journalism" at the local level. That only works for so long until people get inside with their own axe to grind and take control. The activist class will eventually get in, become managers and corrupt the organization if its a non-profit. If its a political organization it will have political pressures. If it is a for profit it will have financial incentives that probably cant survive in the modern day in small markets.
    • Okawari 18 minutes ago
      I think that supporting a wide spread of newspaper on the local level will alleviate all these issues in aggregate. This is what we do in Norway and I think it works quite well to be honest. My municipality of around 250k inhabitants has 4 newspapers that I am aware of, none of which feels very overtly influenced by activists nor political or financial pressures.

      There are quite a few newspapers who are political and receive subsidies, but overall I think our system works quite well at providing high quality local reporting at affordable prices.

    • thunderfork 27 minutes ago
      There's no such thing as an "activist class", just people with opinions. But people with opinions are enough to kill good journalism if they can't keep them in their pants.
  • hunglee2 1 hour ago
    a geofenced, location verified X-type product would be a good way to bring back local journalism. Users can read, but only have write access if they are within a specific geofence. This would diffuse 'reporting' across the local community - we would have actual citizen reporters which Musk pretends is the case on X - and increase trust that what is happening is actually happening. Tried to build this a decade ago but tech wasn't there. Maybe time has come now?
    • olivia-banks 1 hour ago
      How does this differ from services like NextDoor? I'm not familiar with it but it sounds similar.
      • hunglee2 12 minutes ago
        never been on Nextdoor but probably similar. Perhaps purpose would be the main difference - Nextdoor is residential and problem orientated, whilst our idea (we actually had it to MVP) was more like foursquare meets old twitter - basically verified local recommendations, news, updates from folks who were actually local to the area, rather than transients who know little. Our attempt then the limit the transients to read only translates really well today to online trolls / bots etc
    • retrocog 1 hour ago
      100% and yes, now the time has come for sure.
      • hunglee2 12 minutes ago
        somebody go build it!
  • slfreference 2 hours ago
    I think we can safely the problem isn't lack of information at the local or national level. The problem is nobody is taking action on it when informed. It takes only 1 person to report a problem but the responsibility to take action is swallowed by the void, noise and we the people are helpless.

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43877301

  • Scubabear68 2 hours ago
    In my experience, local reporting has stagnated so badly that they now survive by kissing up to whoever is in power. The majority of pieces are puff pieces commissioned by the subject or friend of the subject, be it a school superintendent or local town council or what have you.

    And yes, the bias is heavily to the left. I am very centrist in my views so a left or right leaning bias would be upsetting.

    We live across the river from Bucks County PA in NJ, Bucks County journalism and the NJ equivalent are just shills.

    • thunderfork 28 minutes ago
      If the bias is towards power, why would it ever be towards the left?
    • alephnerd 1 hour ago
      Local journalism has always been like this even before the "death" of local journalism. No local publisher would dare risk access to local politicans nor risk public ad revenue.

      This is also why I'm not convinced about public owned or funded journalism that isn't a cooperative, because that only gives additional power to the incumbent who holds the purse strings.

  • Cockbrand 1 hour ago
    Further reading on this, very worthwhile IMHO: Paper Girl by Beth Macy, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_Girl
  • rsolva 2 hours ago
    Centralisation generally leads to efficiency, but when pushed to far it will corrode core human values.

    Democratic processes will always have to contend with the messiness of humans, and we have to find a balance. Currently I feel the consolidations in many aspect of modern society has been pushed to far. If we keep pushing, we end up in an authoritarian or fascistic state with no wiggle room for the squishy humannesses that is the pesky, but unavoidable ingredient in a vibrant and free democratic society.

  • daveaiello 1 hour ago
    As someone who lives in the Bucks County, Pennsylvania that Stu Faigen calls home, I say that half of the county, which is about 325,000 people, should agree but will disagree because of how strident his politics generally are in favor of politicians and causes from one side of the aisle.

    I say "his politics" but I mean his and those of the other contributors and staff of the Bucks County Beacon. It is a who's who of radical-left Bucks County politics.

    You can't look at the decline in journalism in our country without looking at how one-sided the coverage provided by the journalists has been for the last 40 or 50 years.

    If journalists had taken a neutral political position and called out wrong doing equally, they'd have at least 2x the paying subscriber base now.

    Who knows how that would have affected the secular decline to this point?

    • thunderfork 30 minutes ago
      One of the greatest failings of journalism over the last bunch of decades has been that it takes too much of a neutral (or capital-oriented) position. You can follow this from the scores of puff pieces on the Vietnam War being, like, totally under control, dude, straight through to the modern endless refrain of "well, Steve says the Earth is round and Bob says the Earth is flat, but it's up to you to decide :)". Incuriosity and hypercredulity of access-journalists saving up trivia for their book deals, all with the "noble" goal of appearing "neutral" - it's been the death spiral of Western democracy.
      • daveaiello 7 minutes ago
        Perhaps my choice of the word "neutral political position" was not what others would have chosen.

        I am trying to take a fact-based perspective in what I say and do.

    • sjsdaiuasgdia 1 hour ago
      This breaks down when one half of a two party system goes all-in on lying.

      Reality has a left wing bias because reality is fact-based.

      To take a "neutral" political position in this environment is to accept blatant lies. Journalism should be a pursuit of truthful information, thus being "neutral' politically is untenable if you want to do actual journalism.

      It's true that might not always be the best for your subscriber numbers. But some folks do, actually, care about the truth.

      • its_ethan 38 minutes ago
        I don't think the OP is saying he has an issue with the reporting of facts. I think what he's getting at is that a lot of what passes for news today (especially online) are really just op-eds.

        Presenting just the facts is being politically neutral, but only when it's just the facts. Providing commentary on the facts is not. I don't think it's all that crazy to say there's been an obvious left-leaning bias in that regard for the last 10-20 years.

        • sjsdaiuasgdia 26 minutes ago
          Congratulations, you've bought into the fascists' framing.

          Whenever the media doesn't present the fascists' narrative unchallenged, it's declared that they're being biased. Doesn't matter what the facts are, the accusations still come.

  • b40d-48b2-979e 2 hours ago
    Local journalism has an incentive to serve its audience as they are easily held accountable as such. These media conglomerates do not. They can just shut something down without a care when they disagree with a population and publish unpopular slop (crime news, engagement bait, whatever), and it's suddenly unprofitable.
  • j45 22 minutes ago
    If local journalism doesn’t exist in your town or city, start it.
  • rendall 23 minutes ago
    On the contrary, I think we are entering a new golden age of local journalism in the US, but it does not look like the old one, so we do not recognize it yet.

    What is collapsing is the legacy institutional model. What is emerging is a procedural one: individuals showing up locally, documenting power directly, publishing primary evidence, and forcing accountability through visibility rather than prestige.

    Projects like Honor Your Oath, Long Island Audit, Guerilla Media, and even single-person operations with a camera and FOIA literacy are doing real journalism. They attend meetings, record encounters, publish receipts, and focus on consequences that are immediate and specific.

    The cost of presence is now low. The cost of obscurity for local officials is higher. Credibility increasingly comes from raw evidence rather than narrative authority. These outlets are not trying to inform everyone. They are informing the people affected directly.

    It feels messy, personal, and sometimes abrasive because it is not professionalized in the old sense. Historically, that is what journalism looked like before it was institutionalized.

    For example, Jeff Gray quietly stands in public with a “God Bless Homeless Vets” sign. People often assume he is homeless and attempt to violate his rights, frequently including police officers. The resulting interactions, all on camera, expose how poorly basic constitutional rights are understood or respected at the local level. https://youtu.be/-um41lMH3c4

    Ronald Durbin of Guerilla Media is a muckraker in the classic sense, repeatedly confronting local power structures in person. He recently had a gun drawn on him at a town council meeting. https://youtube.com/@guerrillapublishing

    Sean Reyes from Long Island Audit has been arrested multiple times for filming inside police station lobbies despite clear New York law allowing it, and has been physically attacked and had firearms brandished at him while attempting interviews, all documented on video. https://youtube.com/@longislandaudit

    There are so many others. This is what local journalism looks like now.

    https://youtube.com/@lacklustermedia

    https://youtube.com/@audittheaudit

    https://youtube.com/@amagansettpress

    https://youtube.com/@susanbassi

    Many, many others.

    Here are lawyers giving their perspectives on these interactions:

    https://youtube.com/@southerndrawllaw

    https://youtube.com/@thecivilrightslawyer

    https://youtube.com/@americasattorney

    https://youtube.com/@legalbytesmedia

  • dfajgljsldkjag 1 hour ago
    Did anyone read the article? This is obvious AI Slop. A million em dashes and tons of other chatgpt-isms are all over. This isn't journalism - it's nonsense.

    This is a "reader" submitted article and not written by the staff at the paper. I'm surprised they didn't give it more due diligence though.

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    • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
      Democracy is quite literally "allowed to put up political posters" and "making your voice heard in public", if that's not a part of democracy, what exactly does "democracy" mean to you? Maybe that's easier to talk about, rather than what you think democracy is not.
    • RobotToaster 1 hour ago
      > democracy is not displaying insulting posters or shouting like mad in the streets

      The supreme court disagrees

      > The Court recognized that "uninhibited, robust, and wide open" political debate can at times be characterized by "vehement, caustic, and sometimes unpleasantly sharp attacks on government and public officials."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_threat

    • marcosdumay 2 hours ago
      Well, yes, rioting is something you do if you want to have democracy. It's not democracy.
    • tclancy 1 hour ago
      This would be news to the Founding Fathers. If it is allsotiresome, why open an account just to bitch about it?
    • stetrain 2 hours ago
      Of course. Democracy is always doing exactly what the government tells you to do, unquestioningly.
    • rsolva 1 hour ago
      What is your definition of democracy?
    • gorbachev 2 hours ago
      "Your papers" is also not democracy.
    • master-lincoln 1 hour ago
      lol, then please tell us what you believe is Democracy
    • pjc50 2 hours ago
      Guess the Iranians are heading in the wrong direction then.
  • khelavastr 1 hour ago
    "Unless the journalism is too critical, then they're far-right/far-left agitators"
  • josefrichter 2 hours ago
    The murder of Twitter seems to be a part of a greater scheme of things.
    • embedding-shape 2 hours ago
      You make it sound like it was involuntary for some reason? Twitter was more of a suicide than anything.
    • Levitz 1 hour ago
      For all that it's worth, from the outside it looks to have undergone a real, notable improvement. The feeling is exacerbated by the dumpster fire at bluesky insisting that it was the worst thing ever and because after the fact, about every default subreddit (which already were in a bad state) are now terminal with politics brainrot.
    • zo1 2 hours ago
      Twitter was a dumpster fire of hateful leftist echo chamber activism. X is much better and way more balanced.